Wednesday, January 28, 2009

Pope Recindes Order of Excommunication!

I was listening to NPR Radio "Fresh Air with Terry Gross" and listened to the debate about Pope Benedict IVI decision to rescind the order of Excommunication of Four Catholic Bishops that belong to a schism group called the Society of Pius 12. One of which is a European Jewish Holocaust denier.

From what I understand lifting the order of Excommunication was one of the conditions set by the group before any dialogue concerning reconciliation to the church body could commence. The Order of Pius the 12th is a conservative order that opposes the reforms of Vatican Two.

Under Vatican Two, the Catholic Church sought to open communications with those of other faiths as well as dissidents in the hopes of reunification to the Church. The order of Pius believes that the original masses and certain prayers reflect the proper viewpoint. I won't elaborate on this as I am not a Catholic but it would seem that some of the groups views are held to be anti-Semitic and not interested in open dialogue between other faiths but rather conversion.

Please pardon me if I have misunderstood or mis stated anything.

For the record there was a attempt of genocide of the European Jews, commonly called the Holocaust. It happened! It was the work of Satan and his followers and it should have never happened cause there were People of God (IAM) on the watch. But it did! I say never again!

Never Again!


But what about the Holocaust of the Afrikan? The Trans Atlantic Slave Trade was approved by Pope Nicolas V continued by Popes Calixtus III, Sixtus IV, Leo X, Alexander VI, and Urban II.

Just read the Papal Bull Dum Diversas.

Dum Diversas provided:

"We grant you [Kings of Spain and Portugal] by these present documents, with our Apostolic Authority, full and free permission to invade, search out, capture, and subjugate the Saracens and pagans and any other unbelievers and enemies of Christ wherever they may be, as well as their kingdoms, duchies, counties, principalities, and other property [...] and to reduce their persons into perpetual slavery.
[3] Wiki.

I don't hear any real apologies for that Holocaust which was even more horrific and longer lasting. I have not seen any great theological proclamation denouncing the church's tolerance and approval. It's complicity and it's benefit from our collective human suffering and bondage.

Presently we are witnesses to genocides all over the globe not excluding the European Jewish States current sieges in Gaza, Palestine.

In order for there to be any reconciliation there must be first an admission of truth, a real apology and reparations. The Catholic Church as well as other Nations and Faiths have much to answer for in this regard, certainly more than could be placed in this humble blog!

BE Careful! BE Mindful! BE Prayerful!

Jaycee

3 comments:

Knowledge of The Union said...

no doubt man. I've always found it funny that Jews aren't told to "shut up" about the Holocaust, but it seems that Black people can't bring up slavery without being chided for it. As for the Catholic Church, don't get me started. Them cats been pissin me off since the womb. Anyway, we lucky Congress apologized to Black people some years back. Not that we don't deserve it, but it's more than I expected to ever happen.

Miss.Stefanie said...

Im with knowledge on this one.

underOvr (aka The U) said...

Any and all perceptions I had of German people were shattered when I visited Munich. I discovered (for myself) that people of Germany are cool, jazz in Germany preceded the rise of Hitler and the memory of the Holocaust is exposed.

Unlike America Germans chose to face the stench of the Holocaust by revealing its hidden secrecy. The stench of slavery in this country makes folks in America feel uncomfortable, so it's really "in bad taste" to bring it up. Exposure allows the wound to heal. It doesn't erase the memory of what occurred but it does enable folks in Germany to move on.

Props for an informative, well-written post. Thanks for dropping by Any Way I Have To. Your perspective is most welcome.

underOvr